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aarondhgraham · May 23, 2012, 12:41 PM

The Miranda decision and many other civil rights decisions were necessary changes to our laws,,,
Before that time there really wasn't much protection against random detainment, search, and arrest.

In most cases it wasn't necessary but in many places that behavior was rampant.

Dallas Texas in the late 60's was a nightmare of police abuse of authority.

I was stopped there and my car was literally torn apart while three officers looked for marijuana,,,
I had long hair and was listening to "hippie music" so that was probable cause.

I lived in Europe (Germany, The Netherlands, & Greece) for several years in the early 70's,,,
It always seemed to me that the police were military organizations and assumed military authority over their citizens.

Perhaps it's just that never having any other model to judge by,,,
The citizenry had simply taken this as a matter of course situation.

I however grew up in rural America where the local PD did not "rule" the population,,,
They served the population by enforcing the laws the citizens put in place,,,
The citizenry simply did not put up with a pushy policeman.

I believe it's simply the difference between a hive mindset and a personal mindset,,,
America was founded on personal liberty and the European governments were not.

Perhaps that's one reason we have so much trouble deciding on anything.

Aarond

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May 23, 2012, 12:41 PM	#73
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	Doesn't anyone remember the 1960's in America? The Miranda decision and many other civil rights decisions were necessary changes to our laws,,, Before that time there really wasn't much protection against random detainment, search, and arrest. In most cases it wasn't necessary but in many places that behavior was rampant. Dallas Texas in the late 60's was a nightmare of police abuse of authority. I was stopped there and my car was literally torn apart while three officers looked for marijuana,,, I had long hair and was listening to "hippie music" so that was probable cause. I lived in Europe (Germany, The Netherlands, & Greece) for several years in the early 70's,,, It always seemed to me that the police were military organizations and assumed military authority over their citizens. Perhaps it's just that never having any other model to judge by,,, The citizenry had simply taken this as a matter of course situation. I however grew up in rural America where the local PD did not "rule" the population,,, They served the population by enforcing the laws the citizens put in place,,, The citizenry simply did not put up with a pushy policeman. I believe it's simply the difference between a hive mindset and a personal mindset,,, America was founded on personal liberty and the European governments were not. Perhaps that's one reason we have so much trouble deciding on anything. Aarond . __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)