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Old September 13, 2013, 09:35 PM   #26
Jim March
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Join Date: February 14, 1999
Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA
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Let's go back to talking about Illinois.

We've missed something important.

Several guys on the IL Carry forums (link I provided) are claiming to have contacted their county prosecutors for clarification and so far have gotten bupkis even from ones that normally talk to them. (Cook County's not among that number, obviously!)

Well somebody official needs to make a statement muy pronto. Because this sure as hell looks like the IL Supremes just took the state to Vermont Carry or something damned close. Now, maybe they did and maybe they didn't but guess what guys? If it ain't clear, criminal law sides with "we the people". You can't prosecute if you don't have a "wilful violation of the law" ("mens rea" to a lawyer) when the law isn't clear. Unclear criminal law statutes get tossed out all the time - their existence is an abomination under US legal principles.

So. The ball is now in the hands of the state. Somebody official needs to write an official memo laying out what they think is going on. We can then wrangle over it, hell we can sue over it, we can show it's a steaming southbound product of a northbound male bovine, whatever, but we'll have a starting point.

Right now everybody is standing around wondering what the heck - and in criminal law that's serious bad mojo.
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