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is there any trick to using Hoppes Elite solvent which i have used with no success on my rifle, but is extremely good at cleaning 30 year old pennies i found on the parking lot?
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I've found that copper solvents works a lot faster after you "rough up" the copper coating with a bronze brush, or better, a bronze brush smeared with JB paste. Alternate between brushing and soaking a couple times, it will come clean. Do not put the brush away with copper solvent on it.
Solvents alone wont get the bore as clean and shiny as JB, but you don't HAVE to get it squeaky clean; a trace of copper wont affect accuracy. Does it feel smooth the whole way down if you swab with a tight oiled patch?