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Jimro · July 18, 2013, 06:47 AM

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/...ent-Crime.aspx

Florida's violent crime rate was falling before SYG, and continued to fall after SYG. According to the Tampa Bay Post, only 133 cases of SYG have come up since 2005, but their numbers are suspect because they are padding their numbers by at least the Zimmerman/Martin incident.

Since 2005, homicide has continually gone down as per 100,000 residents, even though the actual numbers of incidents per year have gone up and down during that time frame (the population is growing faster than the crime).

I am all for examining SYG laws in the light of actual "data" instead of "anecdote." Of course as states across the US opened up Concealed Carry violent crime has been on the downturn. So I see concealed carry as the bigger driver of crime reduction, and SYG as protection for concealed carry holders.

Jimro

July 18, 2013, 06:47 AM	#43
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/...ent-Crime.aspx Florida's violent crime rate was falling before SYG, and continued to fall after SYG. According to the Tampa Bay Post, only 133 cases of SYG have come up since 2005, but their numbers are suspect because they are padding their numbers by at least the Zimmerman/Martin incident. Since 2005, homicide has continually gone down as per 100,000 residents, even though the actual numbers of incidents per year have gone up and down during that time frame (the population is growing faster than the crime). I am all for examining SYG laws in the light of actual "data" instead of "anecdote." Of course as states across the US opened up Concealed Carry violent crime has been on the downturn. So I see concealed carry as the bigger driver of crime reduction, and SYG as protection for concealed carry holders. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.