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pete80 · November 17, 1999, 03:49 PM

The only 870 used in the Miami shootout was the one used against Matix as he ran between his car and the first reponding agent's car. A wounded agent fired the weapon at Matixs' legs striking him in the feet and shins.

Also, the two robbers in North Hollywood were only protected by IIIA and lower body armor. Keep in mind that one rapped several vests around his chest and legs/arms. Emil Mateseraneu (driver of the white vehicle) did not have as many vests on his body as did Phillips. It was said that Emil only had a IIIA vest (only capable of stopping .44mag rounds and lower) on his chest. This is the reason why the four LAPD Swat members who drove up on Emil as he exited his car, were able to shoot out his ankles and feet.

November 17, 1999, 03:49 PM	#15
pete80 Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 1999 Posts: 454	The only 870 used in the Miami shootout was the one used against Matix as he ran between his car and the first reponding agent's car. A wounded agent fired the weapon at Matixs' legs striking him in the feet and shins. Also, the two robbers in North Hollywood were only protected by IIIA and lower body armor. Keep in mind that one rapped several vests around his chest and legs/arms. Emil Mateseraneu (driver of the white vehicle) did not have as many vests on his body as did Phillips. It was said that Emil only had a IIIA vest (only capable of stopping .44mag rounds and lower) on his chest. This is the reason why the four LAPD Swat members who drove up on Emil as he exited his car, were able to shoot out his ankles and feet.