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Old August 2, 2013, 08:58 PM   #168
BobCat45
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Join Date: May 18, 2004
Location: East Bernard, TX
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Harry, you have been clear and lucid as far as I'm concerned. And I agree with you that denying people the means of self defense if another way to inculcate a pliant, helpless outlook.

But try this: You are concerned that the advent of CCW in Chicago failing to lower the murder rate will be touted as a failure of CCW. In the past, we've been delighted to point out that instituting "Shall Issue" has not resulted in the spike in killings predicted by the antis. If they go off that CCW has not slashed the murder rate, the answer should be that it did not increase it as they have warned for years.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what develops. I'm grateful not to live there any more and don't intend to go back in any case.
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