Okay I ordered those from Israel, the 10x12 is soft and flexable but the 6x8 is a hard stiff won't bend. They are form inside with some sort of hard board material. It is better than nothing. I saw some testing of lvl IIIA armor and II some of the heavier rounds 44 mag and 5.7x28? the FN round I forget the caliber it is. Left pretty heavy trauma on the other side, Like ramming a pen into a paper but not going through but leaving a sharp bump on the other side. All in all for $70 for four trauma pads that no other comapany makes these sizes for trauma pads it was worth it(free ship was around $22 Israel dollars from him to ship to me)
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