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Old May 13, 2013, 04:44 PM   #10
Bartholomew Roberts
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Ayotte is a Republican, so she would be a bad choice to throw under the bus to get Democrats in line

Biden has no shame. He is quite willing to lie openly for even minor reasons and even when it is widely apparent he is lying. So you kind of have to take what he says with a grain of salt.

The only "No" vote I can see flipping is Reid who voted no for procedural reasons. Otherwise, no Senator is going to flip. If a Senator voted to ban firearms or magazines and then changed their vote before 2014, would you guve them a pass? Flipping now will only lose the support of gun owners without gaining any love from the antis. It is literally career-suicide. Biden should know this but I question whether he isn't senile.

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Really? Which four would those be? Because Ayotte isn't budging, and Baucus (who's soon to retire) isn't, either.
Also not Pryor, Begich or Flake.
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