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SwampYankee · March 12, 2010, 08:26 AM

It does sound like the Professor has a screw loose, but the student also has some issues. If the rules of the University state that no guns are allowed on campus, no guns are allowed on campus. The professor had two options when the AR showed up in his classroom: 1. Tell the student to get it out of there ASAP and warn him to keep his guns off campus or 2. Report him to student affairs and/or campus police.

The likely result of University action would have been a 1-2 semester suspension of the student (although it may have escalated into expulsion) and a probable police investigation by the local PD, none of which would be out-of-line or unexpected.

I'll probably get flamed by people saying, "when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns" but we live in a society of rules and laws. If you cannot follow the rules and laws, you are punished. If you want to change the laws, go ahead. But follow the ones in place. As long as the State law does not preempt the schools ability to keep guns off campus, the student was in violation of the law. If there is a State preemption in Oregon, that is a whole other kettle of fish.

March 12, 2010, 08:26 AM	#3
SwampYankee Registration in progress Join Date: November 1, 2008 Location: I can be found on a number of other forums. Posts: 1,333	It does sound like the Professor has a screw loose, but the student also has some issues. If the rules of the University state that no guns are allowed on campus, no guns are allowed on campus. The professor had two options when the AR showed up in his classroom: 1. Tell the student to get it out of there ASAP and warn him to keep his guns off campus or 2. Report him to student affairs and/or campus police. The likely result of University action would have been a 1-2 semester suspension of the student (although it may have escalated into expulsion) and a probable police investigation by the local PD, none of which would be out-of-line or unexpected. I'll probably get flamed by people saying, "when you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have guns" but we live in a society of rules and laws. If you cannot follow the rules and laws, you are punished. If you want to change the laws, go ahead. But follow the ones in place. As long as the State law does not preempt the schools ability to keep guns off campus, the student was in violation of the law. If there is a State preemption in Oregon, that is a whole other kettle of fish.