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I have some 405 gr loads from remington, imo they didn't kick hard at all, however that is the loading I have tried so far others may kick harder. I have an old mossberg 500 12 gauge smooth bore slug gun that kicks like a mule, I had a scope that did not have a very long eye relief on it and it did not bother me. I don't necessarily like recoil but I know how to handle it.
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