the only real bad 45 brass I've found is PMC, it requires 3x the force of my bulk bought $200 for 10K rem. nickle +p brass (yes it was new, no you cant have any
), 2x the force of federal brass, and I still can't crimp it enough to get it in my Glock 30 without collapsing cases. I have a few fiocchi in the pile, and they are as good as or better than the federal, I still like the nickle tho....I hardly ever have to clean them, and they last just as long.