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Old October 27, 2013, 12:03 PM   #53
FireForged
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Fireforged,

In the moment, with tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, threat fixation, and everything else happening, many of those things are not intuitive.
Sure they are, any trained/practiced response can be intuitive during a crisis... Its is why we train. Tunnel vision auditory exclusion, threat fixation yadda yadda are not harbingers of doom.. They are part of a prewired survival mode that effects everyone differently and to different degrees. A person can certainly benefit from the fact that it is part of our hard wiring system and benefit even further if they understand it and manage it so that they can work through the crisis. Anyone who has ever faired well to avoid what seemed to be a imminent car crash has experienced the same thing. If you ask them how many times the applied the brake, gas or how many times the turned the wheel left or right, they will say ["I don't know, I just did it"]. If a person has trained and has become proficient in the use or operation of any device, machine, tool, vehicle.. They will likely default to their particular level of experience during a crisis without much thought. Scientific terms, Military sounding acronyms, color codes, decision trees and force ladders are all well and good but at some point a hyper focus on such things (outside the classroom) may turn what should be a millisecond consideration into the realm of overthinking.

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As for drawing fast potentially preventing the need to shoot... Yes. I have lived through it. If you identify a threat and deploy a deterrent fast enough, you may persuade the threat to change their thinking.
Sure, but where I disagree is what is on a defenders mind when they make the decision to pull their weapon in a life threatening crisis. There will always be those situation where a person does not have to use force or should not but in the moment (in the mind) of the defender there is resolute intent and passive intent. One could argue all day about the pros and cons of each mindset as it relates to fighting but I politely disagree with the passive aspect of pulling a weapon.

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In either case, the time it would take to process the question, "where is my gun?!" could have been the difference in being assaulted or not. By knowing what and where we carry without having to think about it, each of us avoided having to fire.
A person is going to process "where is my gun" no matter what.. its a nano-second decision process that begins after the brain receives a specific stimulus. Your buddy didn't present his weapon by accident, he decided to do it and part of that was deciding where his gun was. The time it take to complete the act (after you decide to do it) can certainly be a factor but the nano-second it took to process "where is my gun" is not really in the same universe and probably not actually measurable.
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