^^^ +2 Tom and csmss.
I read several of the cases yesterday, and IIRC there are several in which Persons A & B fought or threatened one another, Person A left the scene and returned
with a weapon, and subsequently used it against Person B. In each case, Person A was found guilty or plead- IMHO rightly so, as a SYG defense is clearly inappropriate in these cases, regardless of who initiated the first confrontation (e.g. Joel Kun-Steve Clair incident, upper middle RH side of page).