3 to 4 inch groups are common with open sights. If you can find a low milage gun like my type 56 and scope it, you'll do better. Mine shoots 1.5 to 2 moa with chreap ammo and about 0.5 moa of that is vertical sting from inconsistant ammo. I'd bet my up and coming hand loads will get me right close to 1 moa.
I'll try testing with and without the bayonet when I test my hand loads.
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