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Old April 21, 2013, 06:19 PM   #38
Clark
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Join Date: December 4, 1999
Location: WA, the ever blue state
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I am not buying any more white tail tags.
They always seem to out smart me, while Mule deer stand there at 400 yards, giving me a broadside shot from a bipod.

Comparing 7mm cartridges
assume:
a) 26" barrel
b) Hornady 7MM .284 DIA 162GR BIG GAME POLY CARB TIP 28452 bullets and moly coated them
Quickload and Quicktarget at close to optimum powder choice and 65kpsi:

7mmT/CU ........................26.1 gr H335 2330 fps -471 yards
7-30 Waters ........................30 gr W748 2456 fps -395 yards
7mmBR ...........................31.2 gr W748 2510 fps -360 yards
7mm IHMSA .......................40.2 gr Re17 2704 fps -247 yards
7mm-08 .......................40.6 gr IMR4895 2789 fps -198 yards
7mm-08AckleyImproved .........43.6 gr Re15 2833 fps -171 yards
7x57mm ...........................44.6 gr Re15 2843 fps -165 yards
7x57mmAckleyImproved .........46.4 gr Re15 2873 fps -150 yards
284Win .........................50.0 gr IMR4350 2890 fps -172 yards
280Rem ............................53.5 gr H414 2961 fps -152 yards
7mm Rem short action ultra mag 55.5 gr Re17 3015 fps -73 yards
280RemAckleyImproved ........57 gr IMR4350 3019 fps -71 yards
7mmRemMag ......................68.2 gr Re22 3129 fps -15 yards
7mmRem ultra mag ............83.3 gr IMR7828 3130 fps -15 yards
7mmWeathMag ....................71.8 gr Re22 3170 fps +7 yards
7mmSTW .............82.2 gr Ramshot Magnum 3158 fps 0 yards

I think the best long range gun the average guy could carry is the 7mmRM with handloads that have a safety margin backed off from the threshold of long brass life.
I have the reamer and have built many 7mmRemMag rifles.
I have a number of 7x57mm rifles too, but they don't get to hunt.

As you can see, the 7mmRM is like being 150 yards closer for power, than the 7x57, and that is if you really knew how to load a 7x57 and did not use powder puff factory ammo.
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