Well, I got notified by email from Classic about them since I got on their mailing list. There are a couple of other Mosin Nagant sites I check on regularly and there was a lot of talk about the M38's on the first day they were available. Most of the talk has boiled down to discussions about Molot, some of it pro and some con. I ordered two because I am addicted to the Russian rifles. I'll have to wait and see what I get.