I'm on the Lee Classic Turret band wagon. One thing folks overlook is the ability to use the Lee Funnel with the Lee Powder Through Expander Die and dipper cups. I don't own an auto charging system of any type and I load at a good rate. My dippers are customized to a specific charge/powder and I always know how much went in the case. Simple and error free. The picture is of my 40 S&W set up using the Lee system. I have other Powder Through Expander Dies for rifle cartridges too.