If memory serves, Ruger designed the P85 for the XM9 trials. What they lack in 'ergos' and refinement, is more than made up for in reliability and robustness! To my way of thinking, the original P series was "the AK of combat pistols" far more than the Glock. I'll never forget the torture test that 'shooting times' published way back, it was above anything I've ever seen.
Last edited by 10mm4ever; February 1, 2013 at 08:50 AM.