Heheheh g.willikers, hehehe I just thought about pulling out my old E-tool and putting a razor edge on that dude..
Goatwiskers your frightfully right about them greenhorns not buying manuals, in the 20 min time period I was at Bass-Pro, looking for bullets, there was two young men filling a cart with presses and handtools and maybe four sets of dies,( I couldnt tell what type of dies), I said to one of them," what you fellas loading" one said quietly " were not sure yet, can't find any primers", I asked then " which manuals do you fellas like best?" and the other one chimed in " we don't use manuals they're too confusing" and I quote.
I left and still I pray I'm no where near the place they test those loads!!