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Old January 27, 2013, 05:44 PM   #15
Moby
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So true Hardworker, I'm sorry to say but the NRA has to change there PR people like NOW.. When I was watching pierce Morgan a few weeks ago I was appalled at the people representing the pro-gun civilians..Oh man so un-educated people.. There as to be a better excuse then the 2nd Amendment..which I believe became a stale excuse and will eventually be un-done.

Unfortunately people just live in a fantasy world and believe OUR government would not allow it's citizens to be forced into things most of us consider unacceptable.

It is imperative for a free people to control their government rather then be controlled BY their government. The ONLY way for this to happen is that the government understands clearly that its citizens, if pushed too far, can revolt and are armed enough to do it. We have roughly a 4 million man army. There are 300,000,000 guns owned by over 180,000,000 citizens. The left wing in government would love nothing more than to change this.
People think America is some shining light of a country that is different from all the rest. This is why many in the world see us as arrogant. Our government is run by humans. Humans by nature are corrupt and self centered. We can be oppressed by our government like any other.

In England, TODAY, RIGHT NOW, in 2013, the citizens are unarmed and not ALLOWED to defend themselves without serious risk of being prosecuted. Authorities are so afraid of being labeled racist that they allow "NO GO" Zones, or Sharia controlled areas. A white male or uncovered female will be beaten or raped and police or fire department WILL NOT ENTER THESE ZONES.

In Norway they are seeing the same problems, Australia, Germany, France and other countries are seeing major issues with violence against infidels.
We believe our country would never be oppressive. IT ALREADY IS OPPRESSIVE! It's just HOW MUCH WE'LL TOLLERATE!

I believe the fight right now is with the pen. Try and take guns and it could get ugly. Our founding father were talking about assault weapons.

Here’s what our founding fathers said after homes were forcefully invaded by King Georges troops and the home owner had no choice but to give them quarter, food, and in many cases their wives and daughters were raped. So please, do not tell me the 2nd amendment is a poor excuse for gun (assault weapon) ownership. IF IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTLE REASON AND WE SHOULD NEVER ALLOW IT TO BE DIMINISHED IN ANY WAY!

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)


Remember of the 56 signers of the declaration of independance 39 were lawyers, all were wealthy and influencial men. These were not fools. They lived through a terrible time in our countries history and vowed to never allow it to happen again.

YET HERE WE ARE
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