Looked at them again
1. M&P 38 was $350
2. Model 10 38 was $400
These two looked pretty good but didn't handle them, they were pretty busy. Both were tapered barrels.
At a pawn shop they had one that looked pretty rough, hammer and trigger had a good bit of pitting I guess you would call it, dark spots. It had 38 S&W CTG on the barrel.