Thanks and thanks for the info. I'm still kind of looking around. The same person also has a Hawken for sale but they told me they really didn't have any idea about pricing it. They told me to throw out an offer so I just threw out $120 without knowing anything about them. They passed on that. I'll put up a picture of it. I like the look of it better than the Jukar. Do you think it would be a better gun? Also, what do you guys think would be another fair offer to give them on that? It's a .45 cal.