@poline- thank you for the info. I wonder if that same info is in the Lee manual they are currently shipping with kits.
@Unclenick- I e-mailled the bullet manufacturer. Hopefully they will get back to me soon. This is the bullet im refering to http://store.midatlanticbullets.com/...e-1-1-1-5.aspx
It does have a lube groove. Do you mean that it should be seated over the lube groove even with the edge of the major OD? You also mentioned the crimp. I have read this but never noticed it on factory ammo. Auto cases head space from the front. The crimps must be very light in order to allow that.