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Also according to the UN many countries under report violence and crime to the point where there is no really telling for sure. So essentially the wiki list is a pack of lies and half truths.
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So true. Who believes crime rates being reported by countries like Russia, anyway?
Utah's murder rate is close to the UK's. SLC is no London, but it's a real, major city.
Then there's Vermont, which doesn't have as much in the way of urbanization, but it has even more liberal concealed carry policy than Utah. It has a lower murder rate than the U.K.
An interesting counterpoint to those two low-population states is New Mexico. It has a murder rate of 8.7 per 100k (vs 1.1-1.3 for the previously mentioned countries/states, based on the wikipedia intentional homicide list)
What's different about New Mexico compared to Vermont and Utah?
It's all about sociology: gangs, drug distribution, economics, and poor criminal justice policy driving crime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...#United_States