I did an a live fire anti-terrorist match with really realistic targets.
My 62 grn FMJs worked just fine. And when they didn't, well, sometimes we had on call CAS.
What I've always wanted is some of those 12 ga shells that have two balls with a piece of chain connecting them....that is what the real "operators" use.
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