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Exactly Eppie, I have seen many more extreme cases over the years, that .270 weatherby load I spoke of is only half way up the suggested load, yet it fills the case up in to the shoulder, my manual is telling me I can go another 2 and a half grains, its simply not possible, the powder would be spilling out the neck and it doesn't even say that its a compressed load, the highest velocity at the top of the load lists 3145, I am at 3350 now and that's 2 and a half grains below max! Use your manuals with caution and always start at the bottom of the load listing and work your way up
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