Yep Remington you hit it on the head

. I dont own a 380 but was considering getting one in a day or so possibly downsizing my carry. With the answers Ive gotten here and little shooting of a borrowed one into various things Ive decided to shoulder the the 45 and back it up with either a SP101 or a Ruger SR9c iwb that ill get instead of a 380. Thanks much for all the reponses