Well my 10 year old nephew finally got the job done! We've been hunting hard in tough weather conditions but a nice doe finally messed up. I don't know who had the shakes worse, him or me! He is using a cva wolf with 2 shockys gold pellets and a 245 gr shockwave. The best part is he dropped her in her tracks from 50 yards. Needless to say we have another BP addict on our hands. If I can figure out how to make my pic files smaller i will post some.