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**Brian Pfleuger** · December 6, 2012, 03:41 PM

A 12ga still has to hit important parts if it's going to stop someone.

The WalMart guy clearly didn't know what he was talking about but I think I'd rather have a raw beginner defend themselves with an AR than a 12ga.

A gun guy might not think "2 3/4" bird" has much recoil but most all "non-gun" people would vehemently disagree.

Does it have to be a $900 gun? No, but I'd rather it was an AR than a 12ga. I'd rather it was almost any long gun than a 12ga.

December 6, 2012, 03:41 PM	#15
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,498	A 12ga still has to hit important parts if it's going to stop someone. The WalMart guy clearly didn't know what he was talking about but I think I'd rather have a raw beginner defend themselves with an AR than a 12ga. A gun guy might not think "2 3/4" bird" has much recoil but most all "non-gun" people would vehemently disagree. Does it have to be a $900 gun? No, but I'd rather it was an AR than a 12ga. I'd rather it was almost any long gun than a 12ga. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.