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Long story short I pointed him towards a classic $250 Remy 870 12 gauge over the $900 5.56 AR.
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New gun owner w/a young kid and presumably a wife - again - presumably none have any experience with firearms.
The guy is looking for a "family gun" - again, presuably something the entire family can enjoy.
& you steer him to a 12 ga shotgun?
Sorry - I side with the "no nothing" from WalMart on this one big time.
IMNSHO, either of the AR's would have been a much wiser choice for an
introductory firearm.