Ive got it figured out now with your guys help. Even though the die was making slight contact with the ram, its amazing what happens when the die is set to where the press cams over. This added pressure pushed the shoulder back to -.006 which is too much but now i know at what point the shoulder begins to be pushed back.
I really love this RCBS Precision Mic now that i understand how to use it. Its telling me exactly what i need to know. Thanks for the recommendation on that, Bart.