I'm the gun guy in our circle of friends and another friend is the MA guy, a brown belt or low level black belt? I disremember exactly. Our discussion turned to dis-arming one day and he was all about showing off to all of us as to how fast he could dis-arm someone, Ed...would you mind? (HA!) Sure.
I told him he couldn't disarm me, but he was insistent so I unloaded, triple checked the chamber, and reholstered. He says go ahead and draw on me. So I drew to a locked retention position against my hip and started creating distance while he just stood there.
He says, well you didn't do it right. I said was I supposed to hand it to you?