You guys are great. I was hoping for an education on scopes (to help out these old eyes) and an education I got. In between reading the post here I've been looking at reviews and prices at Cabela's, Dicks, and some others. Price is a real issue, but I am now convinced not to cheap out. Still kicking around which rifle I want to go with, but think I will pass up and packages and do my own mix and match. Thanks for the help!