I started out with an H&R topper Jr. 20 gauge at age 11. I wasn't a big kid. I still have it and still use it now and then. My daughters all used it. In a couple more years, my grandsons will be using it. We all did well without a 410. Not knocking the use of a .410 though. That's what my dad often used when we went squirrel and rabbit hunting.
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