A gun either works well or does not. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Current production 870 Express lacks pride and the Pardner Pump, 870 Chinese clone, sold by H&R and serviced by parent company Remington is a reliable gun. I prefer made in the USA but you will find nothing to support your opinion that the Chinese clones are not reliable or well made. Sad but true. I had one and sold it but it was rock solid, bet your life reliable. Here are 10 reviews of the Pardner Pumps from Police Link site giving the Pardner Pump 5/5 stars. I will trust the opinion of these 10 LEOs (and my own experience) over a naked opinion with no facts in support the opinion. Now if the issue is buy "Made in the USA" that is something we can agree on.