Mac284338, I'm sure your and expert elk hunter and you caliber selection is based on that. When I mention short range yardage timber custom rifles build to those hunters spec it is just that.
We have what called Dark timber and short barrel short action calibers are prefer even our DOW mention please read down to parag 14
If you don't want to read the whole article here it is
"During the day, hunters need to move into the dark timber and not be hesitant to hunt in difficult areas. Hunters should move as quietly as possible for short distances, and then scan the woods for 10 minutes or more before moving again. Even in dense forest it's a good idea to use binoculars so you can discern subtle movement or colors in the trees."
I should mention those guys with there 338 Federal rifles kill big bulls