We have a treaty thread running, 4 pages long now:
Along with 4 or 5 closed threads on the subject on the front page of this forum alone.
Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza.
The problem, as you so eloquently put it, is choice.
He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose.
-Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.