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Old July 10, 2012, 11:59 PM   #72
JohnKSa
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...civillian shooters, last I saw, were seven (7) times more likely to hit their target than police.
Here's some data on civilian shootings. You can decide for yourself whether or not you wish to accept the data as credible--it's provided without any reasonable way to verify it.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....99&postcount=1

Inside 7 FEET, the hit rate is about 50%.
In the 7 to 15 foot range, it falls to about 30%--similar to what LEOs achieve on average.
Beyond 15 feet the hit rate drops down into the 20%-24% range.

So at very close ranges, this data suggests that you can count on a higher hit rate. Of course there's no free lunch. The bad guy's hit rate will go up at very close range too.

Only about a quarter of the shootings involved a single bad guy. The other 75% involved 2 or more.

Pasted data from linked post is below. I do not know anything about this data or its source other than what is contained in the post. The post is written in the first person, but the "I" in the post is rwilson37643 of THR, not me.
civilian shooting stats

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I acquired some interesting information from a friend who works for a states Attorney General’s office. They have tracked shots fired by CCW holders in the state in self defense, criminal acts, and negligence. Of course this data only includes those incidents reported to police, but it is still very interesting data. In the time this state has been issuing permits in the current manner permit holders have only fired 322 shots. Only 16 of these have been criminal in nature, some of these were in my opinion, negligence, but did result in criminal charges or were acts of suicide. 8 shots have been negligent without criminal charges, most of these occurred on a gun range or in the home. The remaining 296 shots were fired in self defense. The following table shows the range and hit or miss of these 296 shots:
Range # of hits # of Misses Total # of shootings
< 7 FEET 68 (48.9%) 71 (51.1%) 139 (47%) 52 (82.5%)
7 – 15 FEET 31 (32%) 66 (68%) 97 (32.8%) 43 (68.25%)
15 – 30 FEET 9 (24.3%) 28 (75.7%) 37 (12.5%) 12 (19%)
30 – 75 FEET 4 (20%) 16 (80%) 20 (6.76%) 6 (9.5%)
> 75 FEET 1 (33%) 2 (66%) 3 (1%) 1 (1.6%)
TOTAL 113 (38.2%) 183 (61.8%) 296
Some shootings represented in more than 1 range

• Total # of self defense shootings – 63
• Average shots fired by CCW holder – 4.7
• # of shootings with only one bad guy – 16 (25.4%)
• # of shootings with 2 bad guys – 34 (54%)
• # of shootings with 3 bad guys – 12 (19%)
• # of shootings with 4 or more bad guys – 1 (1.6%)
• # in which the bad guy was moving while being shot at – 63 (100%)
• # in which the CCW holder reported at least some movement while firing – 45 (88.9%)
• # of SD shootings occurring at the CCW holders home – 9 (14.3%)
• # of SD shootings occurring at the CCW holders place of employment – 12 (19%)
• # remaining – 42 (66.7%)
• # occurring indoors – 4 (6.4%)
• # occurring outdoors – 59 (93.6%)
• # occurring in full light – 14 (22.2%)
• # occurring in full darkness – 0
• # occurring in dim light – 49 (77.78%)
• Statisticly this states CCW holders have a .017% chance of being involved in a shooting
• # of CCW holders shot, stabbed, or otherwise in need of serious medical attention – 18 (28.5%)
• # of CCW holders killed – 2 (3.17%)
Sorry about the ambiguity and not telling which state. This data has not been made public, and my friend is afraid of repercussions if it is traced back to him. and the table didn't paste so well oops
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Last edited by JohnKSa; July 11, 2012 at 10:48 PM. Reason: Added data from linked post.
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