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Old July 10, 2012, 11:39 PM   #4
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The website said I wouldn't need so I didn't get it and it wasn't lying just as stiff as the bull hide with the stiffener in my opinion. And it seams to not hold moisture as much as the bull hide which will keep it stiffer longer.
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