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Old July 8, 2012, 07:16 PM   #13
FrankenMauser
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Dear Frankenmauser, interestingly, Idaho is nearly 1/3 plains and according to your theory, that is where the elk should be flourishing the most. However, the plains counties in Idaho are the ones that have the worst elk depredation from wolves with severely restricted elk hunting due solely to the wolf populations in those areas. In the past, they were the areas with the greatest elk populations prior to the wolf "reintroduction program."
The Elk should be flourishing there, but they can't. The land has been taken over by farmers. Places where they have lost the most habitat are the places they suffer the most depredation. These are the places where the natural balance has been upset the most.

I'm not saying we should all start hugging trees and protecting the wolves. As long as humans think they can control everything around them, "natural balance" will continue to be an imaginary concept.

Two of my favorite quotes comes to mind, both from the same book...
"An artificial condition had created the surplus {of predators} ... and it could only be corrected by artificial means."
And
"Such is the strange way that man works -- first he virtually destroys a species and then does everything in his power to restore it."

Humans caused this problem. Now, we're stuck in a position where we must decide if attempting to create an artificial balance with the predators will work, or if extirpating the species will create an artificial balance that is easier to maintain. As long as humans attempt to control it, it remains an artificial condition. Nature will not be balanced until the population of two-legged predators is brought down to a natural level. (Not good, since we're an invasive species...)
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