I wish I knew how to get teh quotes to work here, so
Frank...you have to references your statement #2:
One of my granddaughters was visiting this summer...and she made a comment that directly addresses what you state in #2.
She said "Grandpa, how come some kids want you to violate a trust? some of my friends were over, they know we shoot, and they wanted to see mom's and dad's guns?"
I told her, some kids do not understand trust, then I asked her, well Katy, what did you do? and she said, "I sent them home..."
You see what I was stating about kids and "trust".
As for Chack in you second post..understand...I had my daughters milking, daily chores, at 9 years old.