Playing with some 9mm today. Speer 125 gr LRN motivated by some Unique.
Lyman's 49th Edition has things starting an an anemic 4.5 grains, Speer #14 says 5.2 grains to start. Will probably split the difference and see where things land. My Hi Power short stroked on a couple of the rounds. The PF9 seemed kind of weak compared to recoil from factory loads.
I'll probably have to go a little hotter for my Norinco Uzi knock off.