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Old April 5, 2012, 12:11 PM   #4
theinvisibleheart
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email from Greg Lin/Surefire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Alves
I just got off the phone with Surefire tech support.

Greg, at Surefire (1-800-828-8809) told me that the item you sold to me as a Surefire forearm for a Mossberg 500 shotgun, marked "H22", is in fact for a Maverick shotgun.

The proper fitting model Laser Products forearm for a Mossberg shotgun is the # 623.

Greg, at Surefire tech support, told me, that the item you sold to me, the "H22" will NOT fit Mossberg 500 model of shotguns. It would be a safety hazzard to use a non-fitting part on a firearm.

Yes, Maverick shotguns were built by Mossberg, however, they are a completely different design.
Sorry, here is an email(verbatim with permission from Greg/Surefire) I just got from Greg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Lin/Surefire support rep
Dear Customer,

You have the predecessor to our SureFire 622 forend assembly, designed for the Mossberg 500 shotguns. The model number for your product is "H22"

This forend is not compatible with the Mossberg Maverick shotguns.

Thank You

Greg Lin
Technical Support Representative
SUREFIRE, LLC
17680 Newhope St. Suite B I Fountain Valley, CA 92708 I U.S.A.
T 714-545-9444 ex. 5168 F 714-545-9537
And here is a printout of original email I got from you in which you confirmed that it is a "H22" model:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Alves/JAM1963
Jim Alves <colt5124440@yahoo.com> Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 2:02 AM
Reply-To: Jim Alves <colt5124440@yahoo.com>
Cc: Jim Alves <colt5124440@yahoo.com>
Hello,
I can not find a serial number on the unit, only an "H22" stamped on the bottom side.
...
For this thing to say "Laser Products Corp" on it...

I called Greg on the phone to confirm the email. Here is what he confirmed via voice today(04/05/2012, 9:30 PST):

1. "H22" will work on Mossberg 500 with 18inch barrel

2. Forend tube on Mossberg 500, 590, and 590A1 came in two different dimension("short" and "long"), and depending on forend tube length, specific Surefire unit may or may not work

3. Surefire forend b/w Mossberg 500/590/590A1 and Maverick series of shotgun are not compatible

4. "H22" will work on Mossberg 500/590/590A1, depending on forend tube dimension.

In the email correspondence, I specifically asked SEVERAL TIMES the dimension of forend tube of your Mossberg 590A1.

You refused to divulge it, instead, claiming that the Surefire forend "H22" was:
- not for Mossberg but for other make of shotgun
- not for Mossberg 500/590
- not made by Surefire
- then switched around and stated it was for NFA 14inch Mossberg shotgun
- then switched around and stated that it was Maverick shotgun(2 Surefire forends are not compatible)

Then you claimed that I didn't have to know anything about the forend dimension of your Mossberg 590A1 because to quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Alves
I have been working on firearms for over 30 years, I know what fits, and what does not.

So, if you didn't LIE, how come Greg Lin of Surefire technical support, who can be reached at 714-545-9444 ex. 5168, stated both in email and via voice/telephone that the unit you have, "H22", is for Mossberg 500, not Maverick as you claimed?
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