Fair enough. The cold NM is a good example. My only position is that those dozen or so steps that are generally agreed by all to be required to get that precision, are quite extensive and that is a function of accuracy not being the highest priority when it was designed. Whether accuracy was or was not a priority when the K-38 was designed I don't know, but the work required to get that fifty foot, one-hole group, at least for my unaltered K38, consists of the following; put bullets in it.