I agree with almost everything in the above posts except for the part about meat damage. The 17hmr is such an inherently accurate round that meat damage is a non issue. A walmart bought savage bolt action with the accutrigger and a decent high power varmint scope will yield sub 1" groups at 100yds. Head shots are all I take. And thats with a scoped 17hmr revolver. My friend has the savage. Most accurate rifle ive ever seen. Plus they do sell fmj and hp rounds that arent as devastating as the original V-max rounds. Yes, they cost more. But dont you owe it to that furry little bunny to blow his head clean off????