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, they are basicly surefire nockoffs but for the money you cant beatem. and surefire parts interchange with them. i have 3 surefires ( 2 6p led, and e2e ) and 3 from solarforce. 2 ultrafire 503b-r2 and a spiderfire x03ti-r2. they are super bright and for the money how can you go wrong. now im not saying i would use them for LEO or military use( i bought my son a surefire for the army)but for everyday general purpose they work for me. i carry one every day for my job and it gets used quite a bit.