One is an 870 Express, 12ga pump
One is a Franchi 48AL, 20ga autoloader
I didn't realize how much difference the proper LOP would make until I put a 6-position, collapsible stock on. It is amazing how much better it feels to have a shorter stock.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. - Thomas Jefferson
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson