i have looked at them at gun shows, seemed OK. the problem with the liner that everyone has mentioned i noticed at the show where i saw them, and thats why i have not gotten one yet.
could be fixed with a little work, but i would rather that it not need work from the factory.
i have also looked at the abovementioned SOG pentagon elite, and benchmade darkstar.
both are alot nicer than the gerber.
they are also a little more $$$, but one the forums,(either of the blade.knife forums) i am sure one might find one for a good price.
and remember you get what u pay for.
while u are burying your head in the sand i will be out doing something about the problem, excuse me if i tram upon your cranium.
[This message has been edited by guerilla1138 (edited August 29, 2000).]