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Old February 14, 2009, 12:07 PM   #12
Tennessee Gentleman
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Tell me, how do the checks and balances protect us from tyranny in a day when all three branches of the federal government are controlled by people who don't support our Constitution and are willing to do anything to bring about Euro-style Socialism in America?
I think the three branches of government are controlled by the COTUS. Barack Obama and every single member of our Congress was freely and legally elected under it's rules and are bound by it's constraints. I think your belief of the "Euro-socialism" is very much overstated (I lived in Europe for 8 years and we are becoming nothing like them) and even if some of Europe's ideas like health care are partially adopted by the US that is not tyranny of in opposition to the COTUS. It might not be what you like but that in itself is not tyranny.

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If you don't understand the natural rights of man and why the threat of revolution is required to keep governments in-line, you should really study the whole of human history quite a bit more.
I would suggest you might want to read about The Social Contract that man makes with his government to secure his freedoms and have social order. Remember my comment about absolute rights and anarchy. We don't live in the jungle anymore. What keeps our government in line is not the threat of revolution but the rule of law and our adherence to it. That is the beauty of our form of government unmatched by any other in history.

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It's not a winnable battle in the present time.
Nor has it ever been nor will it ever be. I agree.

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the bearing of military-style arms gives me the choice that if I cannot live free I can die trying.
I am afraid we part company here. This is a romantic illusion and when we gun owners say this sort of thing to non-gun owners (who outnumber us and vote) we sound like kooks. I won't sign up for that one.

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but in my heart I can be certain that at least I will die a free man, can you?
Whether I die a "free" man will have nothing to do with my owning military arms. There is no connection between the two. Ask those in places like Somalia, where I saw virtually everyone armed with heavy duty military arms, if they are free. I saw no real freedom there.
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