I've killed many elk with my .308 carbine and plain 180 grain ammo. Most shots have been about 225 yards or closer. These bullets do not bounce OFF!
Most Easterners I've met show up with a new magnum rifle they've rarely fired. When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn?
I attended grade school in Powell. Grandad's ranch was off that road which leads to Garland.
Fire up the grill! Deer hunting IS NOT catch and release.